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nobody makes art. there is just stuff.

Journal Entry: Tue Nov 1, 2011, 5:00 PM
i feel the urge to publish my latest thoughts on the excessively tired topic of what is art and what isn't.
i deem it as a tired topic because it doesn't fucking matter what is art and what is not.
further, i feel like most people's ideas on what art makes art is just backward.

nobody makes art.

again!

nobody makes art.

people simply create stuff they want to create. maybe it's art in their mind.

other people who consume any sort of such creation may deem it art or not in their minds.

whatever anybody has in their mind about any such creations doesn't make nor change those creations.

a painting, photograph, sculpture or song doesn't give a flying fuck whether you consider it art or not.
it won't feel sad if you don't, and it won't change itself in an attempt to become art in your mind.
it is what it is, and that's stuff.

locations don't make art either.
there are museums and galleries that are as full of garbage as they are full of art.
there are also basements, attics and garages filled with both.
it just depends who's in there, looking at the stuff.

when nobody's there to consume the creations, they aren't anything.
it's just stuff.

some people make excellent stuff, some people make really shitty stuff, and some make stuff that's in between.

but art is not a thing. art is what happens when you look at stuff that tickles your insides in a very special way. your mind, your heart, your soul, your spirit. whatever you got inside of you.
maybe art is a feeling, an energy, a thought pattern.

at the end of the day, it barely matters what anyone thinks and says what is art and what is not.
arguing that, mostly stubbornly, is a complete waste of energy and passion.

i'm confident it's gonna take another 1,000 years before a large enough portion of mankind may agree on such terms and just create stuff they want to create without stubbornly arguing who's perception of stuff is more superior.

make stuff and consume stuff, and art will happen for sure. and when it doesn't, don't lose your shit toward the stuff and its creators.

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AlanRalph Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
"In Soviet Russia, art makes YOU!"

:giggle:
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AlanRalph Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
"In Soviet Russia, art makes YOU!"

:giggle:
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fangedfem Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2011
I like your stuff :eyes:
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bluefuze Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I agree. With a twist. I feel that it's al about perception, as you do (in different words). In other words, art DOES exist, if the INTENT is there. That doesn't mean it has to be good, or that anyone has to like it... but if something is being presented as art, then it deserves to at least be considered as art, even if you completely write it off within seconds. Perhaps one of the best examples I can think of, where the artist challenged the viewers ideas of what art is, could, and should be, is Fountain by Marcel Duchamp. “It is one of the pieces which he called readymades (also known as found art), because he made use of an already existing object—in this case a urinal.” -wikipedia To me, he really made the philosophical case that art is about intent.

Just as there is no such thing as right or wrong, only the THINKING that makes it so... there is no such thing as ART, only the thinking that makes it so. Without the observer, objects have no meaning.
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Thunderstatement Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well thought and said. I can agree with you.
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gen-6 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Student General Artist
under the same logic. a shoe is not a shoe, because the leather and fabric don't care if you think they are shoes or not, they are just leather and fabric.

Also everything is art. Not everything is "good" art, but art nevertheless. (the concept of "good" is absolutely personal.)
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lolly Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011
I disagree about making art sad. I saw a street performer once doing interpretive dance and laughed super hard at them, and they looked pretty bummed out.


That aside this was a great read man.
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allixsenos Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
"make stuff and consume stuff, and art will happen for sure."

QOTDd
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Student Interface Designer
I like that interpretation :nod:
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011
That's why there's journals. :meditate:
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AnaNaszynska Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Student Filmographer
:nod: True!
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Professional Photographer
TOTALLY agree.....well....except for my stuff....it's art!
LOL LOL LOL
Truly a tired, unresolvable, and BORING discussion! Good for you!
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Pyritie Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i'm confident it's gonna take another 1,000 years before a large enough portion of mankind may agree on such terms and just create stuff they want to create without stubbornly arguing who's perception of stuff is more superior.

If there's one thing mankind is good at, it's arguing with each other :lol:
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Topicality Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011
We need a sister site called deviantSTUFF :lol:
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Student Interface Designer
:giggle:
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lost-angle Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
people keep telling I need to work on improving my art. I don't want to, I never wanted to. I've always just created "stuff" and people think it's art ><

Totally agree with you.
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Drunken-Splice Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Professional Writer
Someone's feeling nihilistic :P Nah, just playing. I get what you're saying. My stuff has always been stuff. Cheers :beer:
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2753Productions Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
You said a lot of.... ummm... stuff :XD: :rofl:

The way I think of it is this - beauty, just like art, is in the eye of the beholder. What some people may consider art, others may not, to each their own you know? Like one of my favorite photographers of all times said:

"No man has the right to dictate what other men should perceive, create or produce, but all should be encouraged to reveal themselves, their perceptions and emotions, and to build confidence in the creative spirit.

Ansel Adams
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Thunderstatement Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's a great quote. :)
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KontonAkuma Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
With that logic, everything is art too. Like you said, it's how others see it and really doesn't matter. It's stupid to argue about what is art just as stupid as it is to argue about if a god exists.
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Thunderstatement Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I used to say everything and nothing is art. This journal is just the next evolution of that idea. :)
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Elandria Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Professional General Artist
:salute:

I just wish I had more time to make stuff lol
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Thunderstatement Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
time is another subject i could ramble novels about
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Elandria Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Professional General Artist
lol yep :nod:
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Midnight-Green Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
I completely agree. well said.
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